Quote from mlucky :

In this case, the drivers can run in track, but the time laps no count for starting grid...is possible?

When qualifying ends for someone and the position/time changes to red, the timing info is no more gathered by server/Airio, there are no lap times after qualification, so start grid is not influenced.

Quote from Napalm Candy :

The idea is a constant display showing the gain/lost time, but not each lap or split, showing continiuosly ... This improvement, will be very usefull to improve our times, a lot of times is better than telemetry because you can see in the moment when and where are lossing/gain time

For a server-side application such as Airio this is too much data to be sent to clients. But client-side application handles this with ease, and of course I'd suggest Aonio, the link cargame.nl was presenting above. Many panels are available there, also those with constantly updated time difference (to previous/following drivers and to everyone as well).

Quote from Crady :

This works. But if I change "bl1r" to "BL1R", Airio changes to BL1 instead of BL1R...

I still do not see how this could happen, unless you have BL1 also defined in the rotation string. Then changing the string and doing !rld could mean Airio will rotate to another track.

Last edited by EQ Worry, Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:34.

Quote from Anthoop :

Could you not just include the WR holders name and time in the !top list with a different colour, displayed in the same way as the other times/sectors? Maybe by adding the WR data into the server sta files, this would overcome troubles when (for example) !top tbo is called?

Uhm, interesting, I'll check if it is possible to do this, somehow, reasonably...

Quote from Anthoop :

Also would it be possible that when !bls is called, your own best lap time (LFSW) would be shown at the end of each line....no room to include sector times but just an overall comparison would be great.

If there's room, I guess that could be done...

Quote from mlucky :

- how is possible to set the length of time between the end of qualifying and the start of the race?
- how is possible to set the duration of the countdown before the race?
thanks in advance!

1) Using auto-restart value, but I cannot check now what specific item it is. Also there's a problem, when does really qualification end? I think the auto restart needs to be set to something like qual_length + safety_margin in seconds, but I'll need to check in more detail.

2) There is an option for this in SRV file, try looking or "countdown" in the file...

Quote from Crady :

Bug or feature? I want to use track rotation ... Airio changes to BL1 instead of BL1R...

Hmm, strange, I'll try to take a look at it...

Quote from Crady :

An other strange thing I discovered is an Asian codepage issue again... ButtnMotd=|^7Welcome, {NickName} to ^J^1ÉÏ^0edline ^J^1ÉÏ^0acing...

I'd suggest using real Unicode characters for the "Japanese R", not ^J something...

Quote from SF-Turdtron :

It was updated via Dean @ 500 servers..and we were told to upload any other files we were sent...the owner only got sent the PROS .lic file and that was it..

On 500servers most people cannot update the core files (EXE/PDB) themselves, so the LIC file is really all you need, Airio update will be done using the service update feature.

If you did not get link to the FULL/PROS version and need the latest config files, just download the latest FREE version (see my signature for direct link), because the config files are exactly the same.

Well, I tried changing the code pages, but I was receiving some errors then. It seems the Greek code page cannot be changed this way. But I concede I did just a quick check, it may very well be a follow-up error, a character formerly incorrectly encoded from LFS to Unicode which now throws error when attempting to change it back from Unicode to LFS using new code pages.

Currently the InSim library running under Airio uses the codepages as suggested by Victor with two exceptions: 01250 is used instead of 28592, and 01257 is used as a fallback if 28603 is not available (that is on Linux). I think these settings work rather well, conversion to Unicode and back is smooth...

Quote from Welder99 :

What is the difference between playerpoints and drivingpoints? Where do these consist? I looking in this thread and Airio main page, but not found answer for that.

They are simply two kinds of top-level points. On each server you may activate both, one, or none. You may also activate those only for some special events and thus they're great for keeping a series score or something. Usually I have both turned off on every server, and turn on Playing points for a special Saturday demo race, and Driving points for different Sunday race. After the events the points are set to false again, and !ptp and !ptd always show Saturday/Sunday races positions...

Quote from pik_d :

In the !top [car] display, on the title line (Server best recorded laps - BL1/FO8 (6) for example) also include the current WR along with sectors.

Well, as you mention, there are certain problems with this. One is space - where to show the info. The other one is when multiple car types are used in !top... Well, let me think about it.

On another note, the above reported bug was result of an unfortunate sequence of events. But it is not a rare sequence, so code needs to be updated. I'll be sending the update info soon. For now please when you do manual track change using /track, send everyone to spectate after the new track is loaded using !sall. When using automatic track rotation this is not necessary.

Thx a lot for the info as well as the logs. My initial guess (no logs reading yet): There was a bug (very rare one, I hope) causing old car type assignment (XFG) to remain in effect on race join with LX4. Unfortunately correction will require code change, in two respects to be sure: 1) Removing the bug. 2) Sending to AIRW car type as seen in the lap finish packet (if available, I need to check) and not car type assigned internally to the driver. These changes should make the system more reliable...

Quote from Kiyoshi :

I made the following best lap in AIRW yesterday, for XFG: ... It is very fast because I was driving LX4!

Wow, that sounds very bad... What server was it, if you remember?

Interesting, I'll try to change the codepages in the Aegio library I'm using, and see if some warnings concerning undecodable byte sequences disappear or are multiplied.

Quote from cargame.nl :

A racer finds it quite annoying that when he blocks messages (with the dash button) that the commands with exclamation mark still come through. I told him about the !opt option but he argued that it still don't need to work this way.

Well, the commands display is a double-sided thing. At the beginning I had all commands hidden, always. The very very bad side of this is many people will never realize there are such things as Airio commands. So I decided to artificially duplicate the commands - original command is always hidden, but its compiled form is optionally displayed to every connection. (That's why simple copy using T and arrows will fail, name will be included.)

Of course anyone has the option of hiding the typed commands, in !opt. Admins may set hidden commands as the default for every new user or for every new connection. AS Drift King says, Shift + - will block all InSim messages, but I'm not sure the guy wants that. I guess he wants just commands blocked when he blocks messages? Uhm, I can see the logic behind that, and I think I'll try to implement it.

It will require a little trick, but it is possible. An optional extension could be, that when someone writes to a guy with blocked messages, this fact is made known, so that it is clear why he is not responding. Details need to be worked out, but it could work and it could be in fact a useful feature.

Just a few short notes before I'm back from holidays:

Quote from michele0676 :

Mate i want use the same method but directly in server ... somethink like /rcm command but displayes as button ..

MC, for an example see the !warn command, it is defined in default SRV file. But that is actually several separate commands, filling buttons with text, displaying them and hiding also.

Quote from cargame.nl :

That restart after track change is great but the script line also runs two times now because of that restart. Could you disable script execution after first track load?

Well, true. On the other hand stats update script should NOT be in server (race restart) config, it should be in CFG file, called periodically... But I'll check on that, if it is somehow possible to disable calling it twice.

Quote from SF-Turdtron :

I need support..I would like someone to help me achieve the following: 1: welcome message when player connects (same as /rcm_ply) command

There are many items in SRV file allowing you to display chat messages, big buttons and small buttons to every new connection. See UsersMotd, ButtnMotd, ConnectBtn.

Quote from SF-Turdtron :

How do i set multiple race control messages that can be displayed one after another?

In FULL/PROS Airio this could be done by scheduled or custom commands, in a fashion.

Quote from SF-Turdtron :

I also want a box to appear when someone connects that lists the rules and has a accept decline button (kicks if click decline)

For server rules usually ButtnMotd items are used, that can display up to 20 or 24 (not sure now) lines. The Decline button (that would simply kick people) is such a funny and useless idea I repeatedly refused to implement it. Can anyone tell me who would press this button, seriously? (I do it sometimes on Lapper servers just to have a bit of fun.)

Thanks a lot for your replies, this one and many previous ones as well. Keep it up, I'm going to get some sleep now.

Quote from mlucky :

1. OffPath ... if i set to "0", the path control is more accurate? How i can assign a penality (Drive through, for instance) in this case?

The check is the more strict, not more accurate. Basically, OffPath is used only to widen the standard path to something that is still acceptable as a server best lap time, small cutting allowed. No penalty can be assigned for leaving the proper racing path, partially because it is too lag-dependent. Airio uses server data for car positions, and server extrapolates the coordinates based on some recent changes, until it received new correct position. After a small lag the car may appear outside the racing path, especially if 0 would be used as OffPath, while in fact the driving was perfectly clean.

Quote from mlucky :

2. How can i assign a ballast or handicap (restrictor intake) to a car model? And, is possible to assign it also a single driver?

Search for IntakeRestriction and AddedMass in the TCD file. Basically you'll have something like this:

Quote from mlucky :

3. on my server running Airio 2.4.2 version. What i need to do for upgrade to 2.4.5, without lose the setting? Is correct if i copy/paste the Airio.cfg, con.1, srv.1, srv and tcd files from old to new Airio version folder?

Best way is to always keep your old configuration file and just (manually) add into them new configuration items from updated default files. Automatic update of configuration files is not supported and currently I cannot even imagine how it could work. The work can be simplified using some file comparison tool, where you open your old config and compare it with new default one. For example PSPad will in different colors show just items with changed values and completely new lines. Update then takes 5 minutes max.

PS: Havoc was very fast responding, and some answers are more accurate than mine... :-O

Last edited by EQ Worry, Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:15.

Quote from michele0676 :

Yesterday night i used the first solution (disable custom grid in first restart with lag lap) and all work fine. Thanks for support.

Good! Next step would be to skip the manual race 1 rid sorting and use automatic sorting by server PB time... ;-)

Quote from VoiD :

It´s me again... No more errors in the log, but: ... please take a closer look...

I'll be damned. Of course they're debug messages I used to discover the bug and forgot to remove. Two options: 1) Ignore them. 2) Get the updated files, same names... Sorry!

Quote from michele0676 :

There isn't qualification.

LOOL, I see. Question is then why not use GridPriMethod=PB (personal best time stored on server), GridPriCount=32, GridPriReverse=false for race 1, and GridPriMethod=RR, GridPriCount=12, GridPriReverse=true for race 2. No manual grids and !cfg calls necessary, restarts possible and easy.

If I was to configure this, I would create Airio.srv.1.1.txt file containing the first 3 items. Sometime before the 1st race I'd apply the settings by !rld 1 1 (which says reload setup for server 1, version 1). You can also have Airio.srv.1.2.txt file with the remaining three items, and call this setup using !rld 1 2 (reload server 1, version 2).

[As an additional option, these !rld calls may be automated for execution at specific day/time or weekly, to be sure you do not forget...]

Quote from michele0676 :

When race is restarted i call !cfg CustomGrid=true for race 2.[B] And if i want do a lag lap in race 2?

When/if you restart 2nd race, the grid ordering will use exactly the same data as before, that is 12 first of the last finished race reversed. So, for the 2nd race the custom grid MUST be used, both during start and restart, or you'll get some LFS standard order depending on other settings. A question though: Why are you using manual grid after qualification?

Quote from Melvyn :

Thank you very much for your help. Now works correctly.

Great to hear!

Quote from VoiD :

10.06.29 18:46:03 #1 C30P47 xxxxxx - Lap 3 : 1:26.69
10.06.29 18:46:03 #1 C30P47 xxxxxx - Saving data from PlayerLap...
10.06.29 18:46:03 #1 AIRIO ERROR : Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt.
bei LiveForSpeed.InSim.Airio.Datas.GetListCars(String trackName, String carName, String sort, String filter) in D:\Development Files\LFS_Airio\Datas.cs:Zeile 977.
bei LiveForSpeed.InSim.Airio.Airio.PlayerLap_Handler(C onnection sender, PlayerLap l) in D:\Development Files\LFS_Airio\Splits.cs:Zeile 771.

Thx, Void, for sending the files. The cause was discovered and corrected, it was connected with what is saved and when, including a logical flaw. Basically, driver new PB was saved but his top level (personal config) data not, that's why the uninstantiated object.

The FREE and FULL archives are now updated, so please download them again (same filename) and replace existing EXE/PDB with the one dated June 30th. Thank for bringing my attention to the problem!

Quote from michele0676 :

I've setted my server that when race restart it reverse first 12 position on grid. ... In my baby before race 1 i manual call driver and do the grid. After i start race for a lag lap, just 3-4 corners and after i call restart. Why when i call restart airio reverse the grid ?!?!?

You do manual grid and then call restart? Wow! I wonder if LFS by itself would keep the previously manually set order. You can disable Airio custom grid sorting using !cfg CustomGrid=false before race 1 restart, then set it back to true before race 2.

Quote from michele0676 :

Another questions. Why if a guys finish for example 15th ... sometime happens that he restart 21th and not 15th ?!?

This is very probably because of the secondary sort you're using, probably by session lap time, the default. Use GridSecMethod=RR (previous race result) in the SRV file.

Quote from Bmxtwins :

U should just turn airio off for the test race.

No, you should just know what is causing what and change the configuration (temporarily or permanently) according to needs. I realize it requires time to get acquainted with the options, but stopping Airio just because you do not want grid resorted is a serious overkill...

Quote from SF-Turdtron :

Watch the replay (lap two, following Thai). He gets kicked for "security"..but he is doing nothing.

Typical example of security kick because of impossible split/sector/lap time, as compared to current WR. It is turned off by default, but if active it works great on most tracks. The major exception is the oval, where drafting allows to reach much better than WR times. The easiest option is turn off time checking by specifying CheckTime=false in the SRV file. That would be a permanent change (applied after !rld), you may change the setting also temporarily by typing !cfg CheckTime=false.

Quote from VoiD :

It´s still there ... Just the line in Data.cs switched from 1001 to 977...

Wow, this one beats me. I can see where the error appears, but I do not know how it is possible. When you have a minute, could you please zip all the Airio config + stat files used and send them over? I'll need to take a closer look...

Quote from Okram :

Airio tracker v. 2.4.5 FULL...

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13:51:15 AIRIO ERROR : sqlite3_next_stmt

The FULL/PROS text is just display matter, but I corrected the output now... The number in console... Sorry! It was a debug info I forgot to remove from code. Also corrected now... The SQLite error on database close, hmmmm... I'm afraid I currently do not see the cause, but I improved error handling for this case, so that Airio closes properly.

All the updates are available in the same FREE/FULL files on airio.eu, just download again and update Airio.exe and Airio.pdb. Franky of 500servers will be installing Airio 2.4.5 soon.

Also, I added one more item to the SRV file that I forgot to mention in the changelog. It is supposed to restart race when leaving lobby screen after track change and thus achieve correct grid sorting, if custom sorting (e.g. by car type/speed) is used.

Quote from VoiD :

Found a new typo in the changelog....

Quote from Melvyn :

I have an error loading Airio...
10.06.28 21:33:52 AIRIO ERROR : Unable to load DLL 'sqlite3': The specified module could not be found.

On Windows you'll need to copy sqlite3.dll into Airio or Windows\System32 directory, on Linux you'll need sqlite3.so in some system directory (renaming the SO file may be required). Click on the filename to download or get the file from here.

Quote from VoiD :

Is the new one official released..? My mailbox is still empty.

Hehe, just sent. I was waiting for a few hours to see if there's no big problem. Well, and in fact there was one, so it was worth the waiting...

Quote from B1gch0pper :

... If i have the Outgauge Mode set to 0 Aonio runs but not the digi-dash, and if i set it to 1, the digi-dash works but aspects of Aonio stop working (fuel, speed, RPM and shift beep). ...

Uhmmm. I'm afraid I have no idea what Outgauge Mode sets/means... Any more info available somewhere?

Quote from cargame.nl :

are you on steroids or something? Damn you are fast these days

I need to have some stable and reliable version before summer holidays, that's why. Not much new features, but no (serious) bugs either, that's why the updates.

Quote from VoiD :

Found an error...

Uhm, that one looks nasty, but unfortunately I do not currently see the cause, partially because Airio 2.4.5 is released and the line numbers have changed. Please do the update and if the troubles reappear, let me know again.

As mentioned, new Airio is available. The most important thing is SQLite support also in the FREE version and the possibility not only to import data to the database (basically from the STA files) using !dbi, but also to export data from the SQLite database to the internal tables later saved as STA files using !dbe. That means admins can edit the database and transfer changes to the running Airio. See the changelog for more details.

Well, I could activate a kind of debug mode on the server, but it is really caused by small changes in local WR table handling. But I concede that it is a possible weak point that could be improved. And I already have a plan how to do this without transferring too much data, but it requires Airio code and server code update. Generally, use the index as a kind of informative value. In my view, it is the hundreds that count, the tens are also pretty reliable, the units are not so important. But, as I said, I'll try to improve the process and cover the known loopholes.